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Silent Majority Speaks

Rescuing Democracy in the United Kingdom from our current Elected Dictatorship

Spin, not face-to-face confrontations with the voters, is the Government's chosen method of communication. Ordinary people are dangerous. Ordinary people might ask a question which throws a politician 'off message'; the Cabinet member might reveal himself or herself to be a human being like us, and not a programmed android. Worse still, he or she might tell the truth.

Ann Leslie - Daily Mail, September 16, 2004

Blair wants to leave his mark on history - looks more like a stain to me.

Peter Thorndyke, Diss, Norfolk - Daily Mail, May 23, 2005

I know I'm me - why do I need an ID card?

"Sorry, officers, I don't have an ID card. I never applied for one. It seemed a bit steep at 300 quid. I do have my free passport, my driving licence and my London freedom travel pass, each with my photograph. I have my NHS medical card, with its lengthy number, given me at birth, my RAF service book with my Armed Forces number, and a chit authorising me to wear a few gongs -including a General Service Medal with Malaya bar, for fighting communist terrorists on behalf of my country, or so they told me.

"I've also got various credit cards and store cards, all with my signature on the back, generally good for buying the everyday requrements for life as well as the odd luxury. If you decide to arrest me, I suppose I'll have to be photographed and given another number, besides my PINs.

"I'm afraid I haven't got a pension book; it was taken away."

"By thieves, sir?"

"No ... well, not exactly. By the Government. By the way, may I see your warrant cards please, gentlemen?"

Oh dear, they've disappeared. E. Harry Gumer, Romford, ESSEX - Daily Mail, June 1, 2005

NO means NO

When does NO mean MAYBE? When it's not the answer the EU wants.

With the courageous French NON resounding in their ears, shabby, undemocratic self-interested leaders of Europe propose ignoring the part of their precious constitution that requires ratification by all members and continuing without one of the biggest founder members to prevent derailing the gravy train.

As in Ireland, they refuse to accept any NO votes, ignoring the will of the people, and re-stage votes until they can engineer the 'correct' answer. Sadly, Foreign Secretary Jack Straw dances to their tune like a puppet on a string. With tactics such as these, how can anyone really believe the EU has our interests at heart. Letter from Steve Penny, Kingsnorth, Kent - Daily Mail, June1, 2005

Surely the French result makes the £1million the EU recently spent on a treaty signing ceremony seem a trifle premature and extravagant. Letter from Keith Wiseman, Bury, Lancs. - Daily Mail, June1, 2005

May 11, 2005 (741 days since war ended)

Death Toll: 1,610 US - 88 UK - >6,164? Iraqi - >17,300 civilians - 25 media 

May 31, 2005 (761 days since war ended)

Death Toll: 1,657 US - 89 UK - >6,164? Iraqi - >17,300 civilians - 25 media

June 3 , 2005 (765 days since war ended)

Death Toll: 1,670 US - 89 UK - >6,164? Iraqi - >17,300 civilians - 25 media

June 17, 2005 (779 days since war ended)

Death Toll: 1,716 US - 89 UK - >6,164? Iraqi - >17,300? civilians - 25 media

June 26, 2005 (788 days since war ended)

Death Toll: 1,737 US - 89 UK - >6,164? Iraqi - >17,300? civilians - 25 media

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Britain has traditionally been one of the biggest net contributors to the EU because we do not get as much money back from Brussels in farm and regional subsidies as our rivals.

According to Treasury figures, between 1995-2002, Britain's average contribution taking the rebate into account, was £2.6billion, or £43.55 per head of population.

The French - the biggest recipient of farm subsidies - contributed £1billion a year or £16.08 per head of their population.

STOP PRESS

One in 100 (of total population) is here illegally

Are Home Office migrant figures still an underestimate

By James Slack - Home Affairs Correspondent - Daily Mail, July 1, 2005

Just before the General Election, Tony Blair insisted it was impossible to estimate how many illegal immigrants are in the UK. But yesterday a figure miraculously appeared. The Home Office admitted that up to 570,000 foreign nationals were here without permission - 1 in each 100 of the population.

What Mr Blair didn't tell us

Comment - Daily Mail, July 1, 2005

So now we know. The Prime Minister was utterly (and very conveniently) wrong before the election, when having being challenged 20 times he repeatedly insisted it wasn't possible to calculate the number of illegal immigrants into this country.

Now the Home Office makes nonsense of his every word, with the admission that 570,000 illegals may be here. And even that figure - one in every 100 people in Britain - could be a gross underestimate.

To begin with, it doesn't include 772,000 asylum seekers who were being processed in 2001, the year on which these calculations are based. Nor does it allow for illegal entrants since then.

This paper has long been in favour of managed economic migration. But these figures make in ineluctably clear that this Government has lost control over our borders - a fact new Labour cynically kept from the electorate before polling day. Downing Street's claim that Mr Blair simply didn't know the numbers when he was reduced to near incoherence by Jeremy Paxman strains credulity.

After all, the latest estimate was based on fairly simple calculations from the 2001 census. It should have been available in Whitehall for months. Moreover, as long ago as last November, the Government's own expert, Professor John Salt, estimated that 500,000 illegals were living here. Ministers tried to suppress his report and then smeared him by claiming his figures were 'unreliable'.

If Mr Blair didn't know the truth about the election's most contentious issue, he should have. Given his record on Iraq and other matters, we suspect an awful lot of people find it increasingly difficult to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Critics say this could well be an underestimate since it involves calculations based on the census four years ago. The Tories voiced concern about the timing of the announcement - conveniently several weeks after the poll on May 5.

In an interview on April 20, in the middle of the election campaign, the Prime Minister was asked no fewer than 18 times by Newsnight's Jeremy Paxman to give a figure on illegal immigrants but he refused. Had he responded with yesterday's Home Office estimate it would have been political dynamite. It had just emerged that Kamel Burgass, the Al Qaeda terrorist who murdered Detective Constable Stephen Oake during a police raid, was a failed asylum seeker.

Mr Blair repeatedly insisted he 'could not be sure'. Under pressure from Paxman, he added: "You cannot determine specifically how many people are here illegally." Now , only nine weeks later, the Home Office has managed to produce an estimated figure.

It involved deducting the number of foreign nationals that Government officials know are here legally from the total number who stated in the 2001 census that they were born overseas. Despite scepticism, the Home Office insists that many illegal immigrants DO declare themselves on census forms. But it claims to have factored in an estimated number of those who do not.

It gives the total number of foreigners in the UK of 3,685,400 - six percent (6%) of the population - and it says it has produced three estimates for the illegal population, ranging from 310,000 to 570,000. The 'central estimate' is 430,000, or 0.7% of the population.

But critics said that even the highest figure for illegals appeared on the 'low side'. They pointed out that many of the estimated 715,700 to 772,400 asylum seekers going through the system at the time of the April 2001 census could have stayed on illegally once their claims were rejected.

Sir Andrew Green, chairman of MigrationWatch UK, said: "Having denied it vigorously before the election, the Government now admit that the number of illegal immigrants is half a million, or half the population of Birmingham. Even this looks like a considerable underestimate with little allowance made for illegal entrants and those who overstay their visas."

Shadow Home Secretary David Davis said: "This report shows unequivocally that the Prime Minister was wrong when he claimed it was impossible to know how many failed illegal immigrants there are in Britain."

Patrick Mercer, Conservative spokesman on homeland security, added: "I suggested strongly that the Prime Minister has misled us for political gain in the lead-up to the election. It does strike me as a particularly cynical move that once the election is out of the way, once the Government is safely ensconced with a reduced but nonetheless respectable majority then they cough to these sorts of numbers at this stage. I suspect that because the figures are out of date, they are therefore lower than they should be."

Downing Street said the Prime Minister did not know the results of the study at the time of his interview with Paxman. Mr Blair's official spokesman said it was still not possible to give a precise figure. "This is still a guesstimate using one possible methodology," he said. "It can't be seen as an accurate of definitive figure."

Immigration Minister Tony McNulty added: "No government has ever been able to produce an accurate figure for the number of people who may be in the country illegally." The Home Office last night insisted it had been working on the figures since November, when it was handed a report by professor John Salt, an authority on immigration, into a number of possible ways of assessing the illegal population.

Professor Salt himself came up with a figure of 500,000 illegals, based on an amnesty method used in Spain, but this was rejected by the Government as unreliable. Senior officials said after studying Professor Salt's report that they had instead decided to start work on using the 2001 census to produce a figure, a technique previously used in the US.

This work was completed only at the 'end of May/beginning of June' this year, they insisted. It then had to be 'quality checked' and yesterday was the first opportunity for publication.

Almost £400,000 was spent on free flights and handouts to persuade failed asylum seekers to return home to the Czech Republic, it emerged yesterday. Only months later, minister threw open the UK's borders to allow anybody from the country to live and work her legally. Critics said some of those given the flights and money to go home would have returned when it was legal to do so.

Shadow Home Office Minister Humfrey Malin said the revelation was the 'latest in a long line' of asylum shambles under Labour.

What they said

September 2003, former Home secretary David Blunkett is asked how many illegal immigrants remain in the country and replies he 'hasn't a clue'.

April 20, 2005, Tony Blair: "I can't be sure of the numbers of people who are illegals in this country."

April 21, 2005, ex-Immigration Minister Des Browne dismisses Professor John Salt's estimate of 500,000 illegals: "In my view it doesn't apply to the circumstances of the UK."

June 30, 2005: Home Office admits there are up to 570,000 illegal immigrants in the UK - one per cent of the entire population.

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